tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post3960160539018061271..comments2024-03-14T12:42:51.995+00:00Comments on Chris Whiteside's Blog: The collapse of reponsibilityChris Whitesidehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02888720969479013951noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-52182770138357044852016-04-05T17:05:10.239+01:002016-04-05T17:05:10.239+01:00......But Jim, its 1st Jan 2019, the first day of.........But Jim, its 1st Jan 2019, the first day of brexit and we have Ukip headbangers jumping up and down in rage because we still have free movement, Did you see Nigel Farage and Aaron Banks going bats**t crazy on telly this morning? You said it would be like a dull grey cloud passing by, and it would be really boring, were you wrong?<br /><br />- No, that’s exactly what it’s like, but even the dullest cloud has a silver lining Chris. Happy New year, and enjoy it for today, there is a lot of work to do over the next couple of decades. I hear it rumoured they are planning to start with a debate about replacing the old CFP with something that actually works in our interest…………<br />Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-1575652201643543862016-04-05T17:04:43.955+01:002016-04-05T17:04:43.955+01:00...... Think of it like this, its Dec 31 1975, t......... Think of it like this, its Dec 31 1975, the UK has recently voted to remain in the "common market" and that consent starts with full effect from midnight. We will have all the regulations, treaties, rules etc that are in force on 1st April 2016, but we are going to do it all at midnight 1 Jan 1976.... Ready for the new year count down....5, 4, 3, 2, 1 bang - Happ aaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!<br /><br />So why did it not happen that way? - well because it’s silly, and no one, not us not the EU (then EEC) wanted that, so it did not happen. That is why leaving that way is just as silly and no one (at least no one sane) want that, so it’s not going to happen either.<br /><br />If we want to leave the EU we will evolve our way out, Brexit on paper comes first then we change things bit by bit as we go, causing minimum disruption as we go and all continues. Much the same way as we joined, and evolved our way to where we are today.<br /><br />On day one of Brexit, things look exactly the same way they did yesterday. We are now members of the EEA and we are sat in a sort of Phoney war departure lounge. It’s pretty much what everyone wanted, a zero risk option. Banks are happy, so is business, the government is quite content and the people are reminiscing about the millennium bug.......Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-26006863638845450302016-04-05T17:04:15.944+01:002016-04-05T17:04:15.944+01:00......It will become apparent pretty darn quick we.........It will become apparent pretty darn quick we should go for a deal that includes a lot of compromising, and the only way of doing that in the real world, within the time frame is to go for EEA membership. This also causes the fewest headaches for the EU as well as us.<br /><br />It still amazes me how many people on both sides think a clear cut and run exit, where we take the EU Treaties rip them up and set them on fire is even possible, let alone likely. In fact it would cause utter Havoc, to both the UK and the EU, and since only the "establishment" (which does not include the government negotiating a brexit) joined the "suicide squad" no one will be asking for it, no one will want it, everyone will actively try to avoid it, so it won’t happen.<br /><br />In every respect both sides (UK and EU) will want to avoid opening up any pre settled agreements that they do not absolutely have to for any negotiation, as the main concern is not in reality changing things, in fact both sides will want to change as little as possible about our relationship whilst achieving the "main aim" The main aim of both sides is really a paper work exercise to "technically" change the status of the UK from EU member state to Ex EU Member state. That’s it. The actual day 1 of Brexit wont be the sky falling in, it will be more like a dull grey boring cloud drifting by on another wise uneventful day......Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-78713889176816613672016-04-05T17:03:50.098+01:002016-04-05T17:03:50.098+01:00I am aware already that this is going to be quite ...I am aware already that this is going to be quite a long comment, so in the first instance I am writing it using the amazing program "Notepad", so I can split it over a few comments that will work with bloggers word limit...... <br /><br />......As thought provoking as you do find it, if I were you I would not worry too much about it Chris.<br /><br />Think more of "the establishment" as the SW1 Bubble, and the "Established campaigns" - those being BSE (Stronger In), Vote Leave Ltd, Leave.Eu and Grassroutes Out (GO), include some members of the political parties as well if you like. A strange thing will happen, it will change from something that should concern you to something you smile about.<br /><br />Personally I don't see it as equating someone who supports voting leaving the EU with insurgency and ignoring responsibility, I see it more as a dig to the "Establishment" (as i defined it above) which is really quite deserved.<br /><br />So why do I say you dont need to worry about that?<br /><br />Well, you will recall reading in many of my previous comments, Brexit is a process it is not an event. There is no way it ever can be really (despite the number of times the Establishment will tell you it is, and just like Chicken Licken, tell you the sky will fall in if we vote leave or remain).<br /><br />Now I am pretty sure you are of the opinion, as are most sane people, that whichever way this referendum goes, it’s not going to be a land slide, it’s going to be close. Let’s say 5% either way, just to pull a figure out of the air, but anyway it’s going to be close. This means that in the event of a leave vote 45% of those who voted are going to be pretty miffed. Also the government, who now need to negotiate a Brexit via article 50 TEU are not exactly going to be singing and dancing about it......Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.com