tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post64221160470261360..comments2024-03-14T12:42:51.995+00:00Comments on Chris Whiteside's Blog: Taxpayers' money.Chris Whitesidehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02888720969479013951noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-22399181853630868212015-11-02T19:50:35.417+00:002015-11-02T19:50:35.417+00:00I like to make things clear as day, so when each ...I like to make things clear as day, so when each member pays his fishing club fee, that money ceases to be the property of that particular member.<br />It becomes instead "members" money, or "club" money.<br /><br />much like when a person who pays their tax pays it, that money ceases to be the property of that certain person who pays tax, and instead at that moment becomes "Taxpayer<b>s</b> money<br /><br />Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-68830429708792823312015-11-02T18:46:41.457+00:002015-11-02T18:46:41.457+00:00Personally, I think Chris Williamson is failing t...Personally, I think Chris Williamson is failing to distinguish between "a person who pays tax" (an individual who pays his membership fee) and the term commonly used "the taxpayer" meaning of course a citizen of the nation or "the fishing club"<br /><br />I personally think that is his problem, does not understand the term "taxpayers money" in its usual way.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-14751923214753237152015-11-01T16:37:41.394+00:002015-11-01T16:37:41.394+00:00I entirely agree with everything you say there. It...I entirely agree with everything you say there. It says something quite alarming about Chris Williamson that he appears to be suggesting that all members of the Conservative party, and probably also people like yourself, are "lower than vermin" because we think that.Chris Whitesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888720969479013951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10815380.post-90908383534470791792015-11-01T11:21:59.865+00:002015-11-01T11:21:59.865+00:00I think the analogy of a club works well here.
le...I think the analogy of a club works well here.<br /><br />lets say we have a club, Im going to use a fishing club again (there is a fishing pond just a few yards from my home so its easy to relate to)<br /><br />OK, so the members (lets say there are 200 of them) decide in the AGM what they want from the club (what bait is allowed, what the lake should stock, and what the policy on caught fish is (do we keep a quota or do we catch, photograph and release. Now to meet the requirements of the members, each member needs to pay a membership fee. They do this to a selected board (lets say a chairman, a secretary and a treasurer) these 3 people are the "government" they are there to do the will of the members, so everyone is happy to remain a member of the club. All money collected is not the property of the 3 board staff, it is the property of the Club on the whole, and the club on the whole of course is the 200 members. It is spent by directly by the 3 board members, but it is spent in accordance with the will of the 200 members as decided in club meetings. This allows for a general consensus of things rather than having 200 different fighting over how to spend the money, the club reach an agreement.<br /><br />Now a government and a nation is bigger than the fishing club, but the principle is the same, meaning the money raised from tax is the property of the people of the nation, that is the taxpayer, not the board (or the government)Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373005279697295131noreply@blogger.com