Quote of the day for Maundy Thursday, 9th April 2020


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Jim said…
Very wise,

Unlike our government, by which I mean previous as well as the current administrations, who took it for granted that an approach to contol an outbreak of flu would be just fine for an outbreak of SARS.

BIG MISTAKE.
Jim said…
I also feel really sorry for Sir Kier Starmer.

Can you imagine how he would feel trying to think of a new policy when the labour long term goals have already been realised. Every one is currently locked up and the economy is already in absolute tatters.

I mean come one, where can he go from here?
Chris Whiteside said…
Yes, we all have some learning points about how to deal with the next pandemic - and we have to assume there will be one.

I gather from a senior local government source in Cumbria that the country actually had a big national stockpile of the PPE and other resources required to deal with a flu pandemic, but this Coronavirus outbreak didn't follow the same pattern as flu and there were some initial difficulties with the distribution arrangements which perhaps should have been more flexible.

I think the NHS actually was reasonably well prepared for a major flu epidemic, which is probably what was behind the thinking of whoever wrote the briefing note sent to me in mid to late February which I repeated in good faith at the time and which Paul Holdsworth challenged, to the effect that the NHS was well equipped.

With 20:20 hindsight I would now accept that was a bit like a general thinking he was well equipped to fight the previous war.

Indeed, one thing we need to recognise is that if we prepare for the next pandemic on the assumption that it will be like COVID-19 we might well be caught out again if spreads and attacks people in another set of entirely different ways. The Duke of Wellington had a few sayings on the subject of building flexibility into your planning, of which the best known is of course that no plan survives contact with the enemy.
Gary Bullivant said…
It is widely agreed and taught at the Army Staff College that the man who coined the aphorism about plans and enemies was the Prussian, Graf Helmuth von Moltke the Elder.
Chris Whiteside said…
Both Wellington and Moltke made comments along those lines.

I do not dispute that a lot of people give Helmuth Von Moltke credit for it, on the basis that in the mid-nineteenth century, he did indeed say

“No operation extends with any certainty beyond the first encounter with the main body of the enemy.”

He is therefore often credited with being the first person definitely known to have made a comment very close to "no plan survives contact with the enemy." Though the saying has also been attributed to Napoleon, Eisenhower, and yes, Wellington.

The sort of comment I was thinking of, and which Wellington definitely did say of the difference between the way the French Marshalls planned their military campaigns and the way he planned his, were those like this:

“They planned their campaigns just as you might make a splendid set of harnesses. It looks very well; and answers very well; until it gets broken; and then you are done for. Now I made my campaigns of ropes. If anything went wrong, I tied a knot and went on”
Jim said…
You are right the NHS was well prepared for a flu pandemic, its becaouse the WHO asked all nations to prepare a plan for dealing with pandemics in the Blair years following the first "disease of international concern" which was the SARS outbreak in 2002.
This was revisited in 2011 under the Cameron administration, and Influenza was deemed as the most likely threat. Thats why our NHS is geared up for a Flu outbreak, There is no readyness for mass testing as the signs and symptoms of flu are much more obvious, it speads slower, and can be controlled to a certain extent by antivirals (suce as tamiflu)

The big problem is, that once we had one plan it was deemed ok to use that as a general template for a pandemic, oooops.

the thinking of our current plan is laid out in Scientific Summary of Pandemic Influenza & its Mitigation

The 2011 strategy document is here

And the final draft (which is currently being used to fight a Sars Pandemic is from 2014 and is here

There will have to be an investigation following this, and there the main question will have to be "why was a flu plan deemed adequate for all potential outbreaks?" Whist we all can say hindsight is 20/20, it really should have been a glaring ommision for medical experts to see over the years.

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