Latest UK government action on Coronavirus

Today the UK government set out a new enhanced approach to dealing with coronavirus, as part of plans to prepare for all eventualities and keep the British public safe.

A statement sent out today reads as follows:
  • From today, every Government department will have a designated Minister who will oversee their department’s role in the cross-government response to the virus.
     
  • Tomorrow, the Prime Minister will chair a meeting of COBR to ensure that every part of the Government is working as effectively as possible to prevent the spread of this virus – and we will hold more frequent COBRs if required.
     
  • Public safety is the government's top priority and we will continue to take every step necessary to ensure that our nation remains safe and healthy with the help of our world-leading scientists, medical experts and our fantastic NHS staff.

Comments

Paul Holdsworth said…
Rather than respond to valid criticisms of his earlier post, that made some untruthful claims about the government's approach to, and preparedness for, the spread of Covid19, Chris chooses to put up another, rather more anodyne post instead.
Those criticisms stand, Chris. Why not respond to them?
While hoping difficult questions will simply go away if you ignore them might be Johnson and Cummings' preferred aoproach, don't you think you should put the record straight?
Chris Whiteside said…
1) I do not accept that the claims in the earlier post were untruthful

2) This is not a "more anodyne post," but an update. If I had been trying to back away from what I had previously written I could easily have amended or taken down the previous post.

3) I did respond, at some length, to your previous criticisms.

4) You are very quick to question the integrity of others when you disagree with what they write. If I operated on the same basis I would have made the same accusation against you that you keep making against others.
Paul Holdsworth said…
1) Of course you don't. That doesn't mean they're not untruthful.
2) Taking down or amending your earlier post would have evidenced that it was not correct. That wasn't an option for you, certainly not an easy one, if you were to maintain your stance that what you said was justified. Instead you've moved on with further posts that signally don't repeat the untruth that the NHS is well-prepared and well-equipped to deal with Covid19.
3) At the time of writing you had NOT responded to two specific criticisms, one relating to a tweet by a South Cumbrian GP, the other to the use of EWRS as a bargaining chip.
4) I'm not "very quick" to question the integrity of those I disagree with. But I do question the integrity of those whose words and actions strongly suggest they lack integrity. If you wish to question my integrity, please do proceed. I'm more than happy to justify what I say and do, in detail.
Chris Whiteside said…
1) This perfectly illustrates my point on a previous thread that once you start accusing people of not being honest in what they are saying it becomes extremely difficult to have a constructive discussion. It usually becomes all too similar to a parody of a children's pantomime - "You're lying!" "Oh no I'm not!" "Oh yes you are!"

2) If I find that I've made a mistake on this blog or any other form of social media and said or repeated something which turned out not to be correct, I always take it down or correct it on the principle that I do not want wrong information against my name on the internet.

The only thing which would be risky would be to make the false claim that it had never been there in the first place, especially if one is called on it. Where appropriate I would include in the corrected post a formal correction, retraction or apology. I've not had to do it very often - the last time was a Facebook post about candidate Trump in 2016 when it turned out I had been taken in by a trickster - but anyone with way too much time on their hands how searches the entire history of this blog will find

(a) two or three instances where I have corrected a significant mistake and duly apologised, and

(b) a rather larger number of instances where I've corrected a typo and if appropriate thanked the person who called it out, the most recent case being one you called out about a week ago.

3) Those of us with a life do not spend all our time online and may legitimately take up to a couple of days to respond to posts. I don't have a staff to manage this blog or the comments on it. When I arrived home after a period away from my desk I put up a memo I had received with the latest government information on Coronavirus, got something to eat, watched a film with my wife, and then checked and worked through the comments which had come in since lunchtime the previous day, which happened to display most recent first. The first one I saw was the first comment above on this thread from you, and as I had responded in detail to quite a few points about Coronavirus I said so.

I did consider deleting the comment above when I realised that you had made two additional posts in the previous 36 hours which I had not yet seen at the time I wrote the one above and therefore had not had a chance to answer.

I decided that my point that I had responded to your previous issues was still relevant because, in my humble opinion, it was unreasonable of you to implicitly accuse me of not responding to your new points before giving me at least 48 hours to see them and respond to them.

4) I am not questioning your integrity. I am making the point that it is far too common these days for people to question the integrity of those who say things they disagree with when they have no direct evidence of deliberate dishonesty, as you did when you accused me of deceit for posting in good faith a memo I had been sent about Coronavirus.
Paul Holdsworth said…
3. What was unreasonable was you leaving up a response once you knew it to be wrong, which suggested I was not telling the truth when I said you hadn't addressed key criticisms. I WAS telling the truth. You hadn't addressed those criticisms.
4. I neither accused nor even implied deceit! I was suggesting you were ignoring difficult questions and trying to move the debate on, rather than answer valid criticisms - in what sense is that accusing you of deceit?
Chris Whiteside said…
3) The comment concerned merely said "I did respond, at some length, to your previous criticisms" which is true.

If I had claimed to have responded to all your criticisms that would indeed have inferred that you were lying and I would have taken the comment down as soon as I realised that there were comments I had not yet responded to.

As I said on my previous post, I am not questioning your integrity.

4) You did use the word deceit in a description of one of my original coronavirus posts which I took to be getting at me (and took exception to.) If that was not aimed at me I withdraw the point and apologise.

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