Quote of the day 4th March 2022



Paul Holdsworth said…
So you admit that our vaccine programme COULD have proceeded without us leaving the EU. I guess that's progress.

You then introduce a straw man argument - I never suggested our vaccine programme wasn't a triumph, just that it wasn't an 'advantage' of Brexit (which you now accept is true, grudgingly).

You then hint I might be "out of touch with reality" - yet it's you who has signally failed to identify one single clear 'advantage' of Brexit!

It was your claim that there are multiple advantages to Brexit, yet you can't name ONE!

And finally, you block the thread, like an infant in the playground, sticking your fingers in your ears shouting "La, la, la, I can't hear you".

You lose the debate, then take your ball away.

Pathetic Chris, really pathetic.
Chris Whiteside said…
What a virtuoso performance in missing the point!

You challenge someone who agrees with you that Brexit was a mistake to produce arguments in favour of it, then declare victory because you don't think the argument they mention is a good one.

I am embarrassed to have to explain this to a grown adult, but if you want to claim a debating victory over the Leave side, you have to challenge someone who voted for or supports the Leave side to that debate.

You cannot win an argument against the Brexit side by arguing with fellow Remain voters like me.

I didn't block that thread because I lost the argument, I blocked it first because, as I explained. I have moved on from the last decade and refuse to remain stuck in the rut of exchanging the same stale arguments from a debate which was decided six years ago, and second because I refuse to play along with your daft tactic of running away from the argument while pretending to have won it by challenging Remain supporters to produce arguments for Brexit.

If you must insist on re-fighting 2016, find a Brexit supporter to re-fight it with.

This kind of argument between different strands of the remain view elevates pointlessness to an art form and I'm not prepared to waste any more time engaging in it.
Chris Whiteside said…
I also have better things to do with my time than indulge in an exchange of kindergarten insults.

If Paul or anyone else has something original, intelligent and constructive to say, I will probably allow it to appear even if I disagree with it.

If you are simply repeating the same things you have posted before, or if you can't express your opinions in a constructive way without including insults, please don't waste your time or mine.
Paul Holdsworth said…
If you do ever come up with a clear, demonstrable advantage of Brexit, be sure to let me know, won't you, Chris?
Chris Whiteside said…
As far as I'm concerned, I already have - the fact that it was much easier to run our own programme to develop and produce Covid vaccines.

You disagree. That's your right.

But if you want to challenge someone to produce a stronger argument for Leave, find someone who voted Leave and challenge them.

I am under no obligation to find stronger arguments for something I voted against.

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