Nick Herbert on his visit to flood hit areas of Cumbria
Please note that the post below was published more than ten year ago on 21st November 2009 Nick Herbert MP, shadow cabinet member for the Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs, was in Cumbria this morning to see the areas affected by the flooding. He writes on Conservative Home about his visit. Here is an extract. I’ve been in Cumbria today to see the areas affected by the floods. I arrived early in Keswick where I met officials from the Environment Agency. Although the river levels had fallen considerably and homes were no longer flooded, the damage to homes had been done. And the water which had got into houses wasn’t just from the river – it was foul water which had risen from the drains. I talked to fire crews who were pumping flood water back into the river, and discovered that they were from Tyne & Wear and Lancashire. They had been called in at an hours’ notice and had been working on the scene ever since, staying at a local hotel. You cannot fail to be impressed by the
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You then introduce a straw man argument - I never suggested our vaccine programme wasn't a triumph, just that it wasn't an 'advantage' of Brexit (which you now accept is true, grudgingly).
You then hint I might be "out of touch with reality" - yet it's you who has signally failed to identify one single clear 'advantage' of Brexit!
It was your claim that there are multiple advantages to Brexit, yet you can't name ONE!
And finally, you block the thread, like an infant in the playground, sticking your fingers in your ears shouting "La, la, la, I can't hear you".
You lose the debate, then take your ball away.
Pathetic Chris, really pathetic.
You challenge someone who agrees with you that Brexit was a mistake to produce arguments in favour of it, then declare victory because you don't think the argument they mention is a good one.
I am embarrassed to have to explain this to a grown adult, but if you want to claim a debating victory over the Leave side, you have to challenge someone who voted for or supports the Leave side to that debate.
You cannot win an argument against the Brexit side by arguing with fellow Remain voters like me.
I didn't block that thread because I lost the argument, I blocked it first because, as I explained. I have moved on from the last decade and refuse to remain stuck in the rut of exchanging the same stale arguments from a debate which was decided six years ago, and second because I refuse to play along with your daft tactic of running away from the argument while pretending to have won it by challenging Remain supporters to produce arguments for Brexit.
If you must insist on re-fighting 2016, find a Brexit supporter to re-fight it with.
This kind of argument between different strands of the remain view elevates pointlessness to an art form and I'm not prepared to waste any more time engaging in it.
If Paul or anyone else has something original, intelligent and constructive to say, I will probably allow it to appear even if I disagree with it.
If you are simply repeating the same things you have posted before, or if you can't express your opinions in a constructive way without including insults, please don't waste your time or mine.
You disagree. That's your right.
But if you want to challenge someone to produce a stronger argument for Leave, find someone who voted Leave and challenge them.
I am under no obligation to find stronger arguments for something I voted against.